O3: You have two women in the band; do you get labeled as a "girl band" often? If yes, what do you think about it? Do the guys have any feelings on that?

Rachel: Ugh, yes. We get labeled a "girl band" all too often, and it's quite grating. First of all, there are men in the band, and second of all, why should our gender be used to classify our music? It shouldn't matter.

Elizabeth: It's just so silly. What does our gender have to do with our music? Plus I always want to say, "If you care that much, can't you at least see that we're co-ed?"

"Girl band" implies so much. As if, because I'm a girl, I must have the same perspective and play the same type of music as every other "girl band". Like we all have breasts so we must all think alike. I've had people come up to me and say "Oh, I love bands with girls in them." I always wanna say, "That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Is that supposed to be a compliment? Like if I were a boy you wouldn't like my music as much?"

O3: In "I Took You Driving" you talk about being sick of boys in bands with out-of-hand egos. Have you, too, experienced the strange power that emo and indie boys seem to own? The boys who are jerks, but somehow their sweaters almost always blind you to their jerkiness?

Elizabeth: Heehee. Oh, you mean the boys where your entire friendship/relationship is all about "them and their band and did you come see their last show and stand in the front row but they'll play any PC benefit and proclaim their sensitivity towards 'women's issues' loud and clear to the world"?

Uh yeah, I've known a few.

But my experience from being in a band that plays in an almost all-guy scene is that a lot of the girls are really dumb about it. I mean if you're gonna set a boy up on a pedestal because he can dress well and strum a pick across a few strings what do you expect? Those aren't very good qualifications for someone you wanna make out with. I can never tell whether I have less patience with the scummy boys or the idiotic girls. Though yeah, I've put in time as one of those idiotic girls. But "I took you Driving" is about not being an idiotic girl and still getting some action from the boy.

I can't be too mean though, 'cause most of my friends are guys in bands. I just have to kick their asses every once in a while.

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